Did the United States win or lose the Vietnam War? We are taught that it was a resounding loss for America, one that proves that intervening in the affairs of other nations is usually misguided. The truth is that our military won the war, but our politicians lost it. The Communists in North Vietnam actually signed a peace treaty, effectively surrendering. But the U.S. Congress didn’t hold up its end of the bargain. In just five minutes, learn the truth about who really lost the Vietnam War.
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Decades back, in late 1972, South Vietnam and the United States were winning the Vietnam War decisively by every conceivable measure. That’s not just my view. That was the view of our enemy, the North Vietnamese government officials. Victory was apparent when President Nixon ordered the U.S. Air Force to bomb industrial and military targets in Hanoi, North Viet Nam’s capital city, and in Haiphong, its major port city, and we would stop the bombing if the North Vietnamese would attend the Paris Peace Talks that they had left earlier. The North Vietnamese did go back to the Paris Peace talks, and we did stop the bombing as promised.
On January the 23rd, 1973, President Nixon gave a speech to the nation on primetime television announcing that the Paris Peace Accords had been initialed by the United States, South Vietnam, North Vietnam, the Viet Cong, and the Accords would be signed on the 27th. What the United States and South Vietnam received in those accords was victory. At the White House, it was called “VV Day,” “Victory in Vietnam Day.”
The U.S. backed up that victory with a simple pledge within the Paris Peace Accords saying: should the South require any military hardware to defend itself against any North Vietnam aggression we would provide replacement aid to the South on a piece-by-piece, one-to-one replacement, meaning a bullet for a bullet; a helicopter for a helicopter, for all things lost — replacement. The advance of communist tyranny had been halted by those accords.
Then it all came apart. And It happened this way: In August of the following year, 1974, President Nixon resigned his office as a result of what became known as “Watergate.” Three months after his resignation came the November congressional elections and within them the Democrats won a landslide victory for the new Congress and many of the members used their new majority to de-fund the military aid the U.S. had promised, piece for piece, breaking the commitment that we made to the South Vietnamese in Paris to provide whatever military hardware the South Vietnamese needed in case of aggression from the North. Put simply and accurately, a majority of Democrats of the 94th Congress did not keep the word of the United States.
On April the 10th of 1975, President Gerald Ford appealed directly to those members of the congress in an evening Joint Session, televised to the nation. In that speech he literally begged the Congress to keep the word of the United States. But as President Ford delivered his speech, many of the members of the Congress walked out of the chamber. Many of them had an investment in America’s failure in Vietnam. They had participated in demonstrations against the war for many years. They wouldn’t give the aid.
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"The problem with Vietnam is that we didn't bomb them enough!" -PragerU
Oh no, USA forgot that they won. That's why South Vietnam is no more.
Yes. They wanted US troops withdrawn from the entire proxy war.
Google or dictionary search proxy war.
Of course forget the whole bombing cities and agent orange and all the other shit america did, just remember that communism BAD because… it killed 100 million people! Ok seriously, america failed in vietnam and communism didn't cause 100 million deaths, stalin and mao caused 100 million deaths.
millions of innocent vietnamese died, but lets talk about why we "won"
Vietnam was lost well before America even actually committed combat troops . It was lost when the French left and America took over The south could never win the war because they never had the fight in spirit the North did . The ARVN were loosing double the number with just the advisors in play and many of the North Vietnamese commanders said had America not committed ground troops under LBJ they would have marched into siagon in 64 65
So many died,for what?
The question is not if the US did win but why the hell they invaded the legitime state in the first place.
Republicans are always saying government can't do anything right. The Vietnam war proved it.
All this was to "Avoid humiliation" per declassified CIA letters.
USA breaking the Geneva Accords by cancelling Vietnam's first ever democratic presidential election then installing a brutal catholic puppet regime is the real basis for War.
Viva Vietnam Independence from an unbrainwashed American.
The US wanted to prevent South Vietnam falling to the communists in order to prevent a domino effect. U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower refered to this in 1954 (https://www.nps.gov/features/eise/jrranger/quotes2.htm)
Given that the PAVn & Viet cong reached Saigon & "On 30 April 1975, PAVN troops entered the city of Saigon and quickly overcame all resistance, capturing key buildings and installations. A tank from the 304th Division crashed through the gates of the Independence Palace at 11:30 am local time and the Viet Cong flag was raised above it. "
On 2 July 1976, North and South Vietnam were merged to form the Socialist Republic of Vietnam.
Clearly the US failed in the objectives it set out, thus it lost the war.
Did America achieve its objectives? No? Then it lost the war.
Not just the nazis dreaming about endsieg haha
Broke: "pOliTiCIAns lOsT thE wAr"
Woke: "…the political view is the object, War is the means, and the means must always include the object in our conception." Clausewitz
TLDR: Politics was part of the game. America failed to subdue the insurgency militarily and lost political support at home. Yes, in an ideal total war the Americans would have won. But most wars are limited, and political factors have always affected them.
It will keep happening
You go halfway around the world and you get nothing. America won
The US just had to be in every battle because they think they are the most powerful country in the world. How they always potray themselves as the strongest in movies or books or history. Well we all know now that they are never true. Now now, dont be in denial.
I dont know why you guys are trying to defend Vietnam fiasco. It was one of the regime change war based on false narrative. That if Vietnam became communist so will Myanmar, Laos and India. Guess what none of that happened after Communists took over Vietnam.The Cold War hysteria was a big problem in US mindset and its downfall too. The unilateral actions from US was the reason they thought India won't get out of the war for Bangladeshi Liberation. But the key difference was that India had international support against Pakistan, then US ally/whore. You are ttying to spin it in a way that it was all a problem because of Democrats. Guess what the lies of Repiblicans and the Ego of Presidents to continue war in Vietnam brought them down. They always knew they will never win. McNamara reports stated that. The occupation of a land maybe but pccupation of people was never going to work in East Asia.
USA simply didn't take humiliation of defeat in all who attack Vietnam USA soldiers died most and u can't go back because of casualties outside and in home and deaths of usa soldiers is unimaginable is way more plenty then french died in Vietnam. Plus Vietcong did the very successful ambush in USA and don't tell us about the battle every soldier counts if we count the countless ambushes made by nva u would be defeated and u just killed more innocent lives than soldiers. And the north said in your face we can do this forever and u simply go home without getting any profit how pityful
Who shot dowm B52?
Maybe they fell by themself. Haha.
The US had to win to defeat the commie reds.
This is historical revision!
What kind of drug this old idiot use?
I thought we lost the war!!?? It's what I learned in school
Idk what to believe anymore
i am an indian and no hate for america…
but all these western intervrntions in in all of the asia..has raveged this whole land…😒😒from fighting commies to taking oil..asia shouldnt be considered as somones playground….
It is funny how can americans call a military, political and economical failure a Victory…an old military motto says that war is won on the amount of land that you can take, not by the military casualties. USA lost the war, we can even say that if they would send the help to the SV-it would do nothing, war was already lost for the South Vietnamies, they had corrupt government, bad organised military(not bad soldiers) and on top of that did not own half of their own country…
The failure was the Democrates" and still it continues
US LOST THE WAR,US WILL AGAIN IF IT ATTACKS CHINA BECAUSE CHINA IS NOT VIETNAM
idiot
get off the air.
You embarrass America. Shame on PragerU. PragerU = Anti American
Industrial or military targets yeah right hahahahhaaha
This is a joke.
OOPS, DID I MENTION GOOGLE? LET'S SEE HOW LONG MY POST LAST!!!
Thing is not north vietnamese are fighting again US but also the south people (VC).The south goverment is a corruption regime they kill anyone they thing are communist(majority of south vietnam farmer)before the fall of Saigon 1 month the top leaders is running to US ,it the US can keep the promise they just pro-long the war but can’t help them from defeat.And above the boat people most of them is who working for the south goverment and weathly people.The south goverment spend their life time telling people these will a BloodBath it the north winning but history tell you nothing about it.Why you don’t thing The US spend Billion dollar and thousand US boys fight in 20 year but the south goverment can’t hold it in 3 years ,and why so many vietnamese both south and north a willing to fight again US for 20 years.Because we don’t want to be any foreigner background.Now a day we love US and the war is a story of the past, I respect those who cannot live to the day the war end.
It is sad that so many lives sacrificed for that. Anyone visit VN now would see clearly how they love the Capitalists. Everything is for money right down to the basic necessities of life: food, healthcare, education, housing… It was once fought for a Utopian Communist Socialist society where the need of everyone are guaranteed equally. Now it is everyone for themselves. The profiteers now are the same old Vietnamese oligarchs and their children who started the communist movement 60 years ago. History has been written mostly by the VICTORS ALWAYS!!!
This war had an ending before it even started. VN was a war chess with real goal of breaking up tie between comie China and Russia. USA did that by promising China a booming economy once it opened up their labor market so that the big boys of US businesses can profit more. Just Look at Amazon, Apple, Walmart, GM, Google, Nike of today …just to name a few. VN was a necessary Poker game to drain up Russian and China wealth, driving them to their knee to negotiate. China took advantage and secretly plan to be a SUPERPOWER surpassing USA. We took our eyes off of China until now with the Covid19 to realize how heavy a dependence we have on COMMUNIST CHINA SUPPLY CHAIN. Cost is in Trillions and counting. When do we get sober and straighten our house before we have to beg China for a living?
A lost is a lost. Its is an undeniable fact. Don't try to blame on something else. Just like Donald Trump nowadays.
P/s: Apr 30 happiest day in my life. Cheers
Ok ok. You won, US won VietNamWar in DC comic =))))) LoL
All TRUE Patriots reject and abhor every form of leftist commie scum!
Hippies and Democrats = 💩💩💩💩🤤🤤🤤😪
wow…… after all those young men dying in vietnam and winning the "good guys" ie . the democrats snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.. wow.. just wow..
America lied to it's own people. Got involved in the war which was not necessary, divided Vietnam, killed more than 3 million people including more than 58000 of their own.
and now The Taliban war.
However, in 1972, right before the November presidential election Henry Kissinger announced that "peace was at hand." President Thieu of South Vietnam refused to sign any peace accord simply because it would allow communist military forces to remain in South Vietnam in the areas they controlled and went on television in South Vietnam telling his people to fight on and after pressure from the USA he relented and also the pulverizing effects of the 1972 December bombing of North Vietnam that had to end result of their military structure to become ineffective. Even after the peace accords were signed fighting continued as the communists did not honor the peace treaty. With diminished US aid hampering his defense forces Thieu, in early 1975 decided that the central highlands geographic area of the South was not worth holding on to and began a 'stratigic with drawl' which turned into a horrid retreat and rout ending with a communist victory and then horrid oppression. And until the Clinton administration established diplomatic relations with the Hanoi government Vietnam's chief industry was refugees, literally robbing people leaving that country. Also don't forget Cambodia, an absolute disaster in US policy.
Loser is loser, thanks
Any war America is involved in is sketchy.
We were never winning. South Vietnam never signed the agreement. The NVA and the VC never stopped fighting & occupying South Vietnam. We should have never been there in the first place.
You have to be really blinded by partisan politics and divisive rhetoric to claim that the US and S. Vietnam were winning the Vietnam War, and that it all fell apart because of those nasty Democrats. My goodness.
Lol this is clearly propaganda. America lost that war. If america won in cietnam, then japan and germany won ww2. Hows that for prageru??? Lmao
It shouldn’t have happened in the first place.